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Post by mokkabee on Feb 25, 2014 17:45:50 GMT -5
I would be interested!!!! Hey that'll be great I would be happy to see you on board of project patchwork.
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Post by Vigilante on Feb 25, 2014 17:55:47 GMT -5
I would be interested!!!! I added you to the PM, welcome aboard
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Post by minky on Feb 25, 2014 17:59:27 GMT -5
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Post by tom7363 on Feb 25, 2014 18:15:55 GMT -5
Looks quite interesting, as i have not so much time at the moment, so i will maybe join later.
For the moment i would only ask someone of you, to provide regularly some sync of the town in TOSE that all forum members can see the progress in growing up.
Wish you all good luck and many creative ideas +1
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Post by Annette on Feb 25, 2014 18:25:19 GMT -5
I'd love to watch this as it develops. Agree with previous posters, begging for regular updates. However, I do have a question about how you're going to handle the issue of roads ... Do they need to be connected somehow, leading from one patch to the next? Or do you envision that the patches are going to be totally independent of one another? (Can't get the Back to the Future line out of my head: "Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads!") Annette
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Post by minky on Feb 25, 2014 18:28:21 GMT -5
I'd love to watch this as it develops. Agree with previous posters, begging for regular updates. However, I do have a question about how you're going to handle the issue of roads ... Do they need to be connected somehow, leading from one patch to the next? Or do you envision that the patches are going to be totally independent of one another? (Can't get the Back to the Future line out of my head: "Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads!") Annette Great question Annette! This is something we are currently trying to work out. This project is in its infancy - barely one day old now - and it's going to be interesting to see how we work out things like that.
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Post by mokkabee on Feb 25, 2014 19:20:49 GMT -5
I'd love to watch this as it develops. Agree with previous posters, begging for regular updates. However, I do have a question about how you're going to handle the issue of roads ... Do they need to be connected somehow, leading from one patch to the next? Or do you envision that the patches are going to be totally independent of one another? (Can't get the Back to the Future line out of my head: "Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads!") Annette Yes it is like minky said. Since this project is very young we will see how this issue is going to play out. Basically what I think about the road issue and the one about wether or not being connected I can tell so far that my personal idea of it is to not connect them. And here is why: the project is called patchwork for a reason. Like a quilt that is made out of different patches it would be great if we can achieve similar stuff, meaning all separate sections should be not connected but have a life of its own. It is becoming a real patchwork only when each section is different and not connected by design. Otherwise we would have only a common big town where perhaps each section might have a look of it's own but when we start connection streets and water it won't look much of a patchwork because connecting streets will take away the unique look of each section. Also because streets and buildings are slanted but the current boarders are straight it can not be connected so easily. I haven't started yet with designing but I am sure once I have filled my section with stuff until the edges, the whole idea of the patchwork will become more visible. I just have to get to it and as soon as I completed my section I'll post the screenshot
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Post by Annette on Feb 25, 2014 21:02:41 GMT -5
I'd love to watch this as it develops. Agree with previous posters, begging for regular updates. However, I do have a question about how you're going to handle the issue of roads ... Do they need to be connected somehow, leading from one patch to the next? Or do you envision that the patches are going to be totally independent of one another? (Can't get the Back to the Future line out of my head: "Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads!") Annette Yes it is like minky said. Since this project is very young we will see how this issue is going to play out. Basically what I think about the road issue and the one about wether or not being connected I can tell so far that my personal idea of it is to not connect them. And here is why: the project is called patchwork for a reason. Like a quilt that is made out of different patches it would be great if we can achieve similar stuff, meaning all separate sections should be not connected but have a life of its own. It is becoming a real patchwork only when each section is different and not connected by design. Otherwise we would have only a common big town where perhaps each section might have a look of it's own but when we start connection streets and water it won't look much of a patchwork because connecting streets will take away the unique look of each section. Also because streets and buildings are slanted but the current boarders are straight it can not be connected so easily. I haven't started yet with designing but I am sure once I have filled my section with stuff until the edges, the whole idea of the patchwork will become more visible. I just have to get to it and as soon as I completed my section I'll post the screenshot I love that concept! You're right ... The very term patchwork signifies things that don't actually belong together being put beside one another in a ... well ... Patchwork! (Brain explodes.) It would be awesome to have the incongruities ... Different energies (making up words as I go along) in different areas of the town. Loving this more and more.
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Post by mokkabee on Feb 25, 2014 22:15:00 GMT -5
Ok the first patch is finished. As everybody can clearly see ( I hope ) there were absolutely no design issues even though I had to design around straight lines vertical and horizontal. I could have used streets but I decided not to. I hope this shows everybody how it could be done. This is what it looks like when we stitch the patches together. The other participants will soon also continue to work on their patches.
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Post by Annette on Feb 25, 2014 22:32:55 GMT -5
Thats wonderful! An observation, if I may ... I think that The top edges of the buildings along the top of each patch need to be contained within the patch, or else the horizontal "seams" of your quilt will completely disappear, and it will look like strips instead of blocks. Each square's entire "frame" needs to be visible.
It is the uniform, visible, stitching in a quilt that unifies the pieces.
Was that as confusing as I think it was?
EDIT TO ADD !!! unless that image is of the patch that will always remain at the top edge of the quilt ... And you want the edges to not be flat/straight/plain. (You may want to play with the idea of an edging of trees encircling the outer edge of the entire piece when done.)
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Post by minky on Feb 25, 2014 22:36:58 GMT -5
Thats wonderful! An observation, if I may ... I think that The top edges of the buildings along the top of each patch need to be contained within the patch, or else the horizontal "seams" of your quilt will completely disappear, and it will look like strips instead of blocks. Each square's entire "frame" needs to be visible. It is the uniform, visible, stitching in a quilt that unifies the pieces. Was that as confusing as I think it was? I think the outer edges have more leeway than edges that touch each other. maybe...?
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Post by Annette on Feb 25, 2014 22:38:06 GMT -5
Ninja'd! Have a look at my edit.
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Post by minky on Feb 25, 2014 22:40:10 GMT -5
Ninja'd! Have a look at my edit. +1
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Post by Annette on Feb 25, 2014 22:50:40 GMT -5
Question: How did y'all end up with so much land in an undeveloped Springfield? Is there an entire city squished up into one corner or something? How do you pay for the land without lots of buildings and characters to collect from? And how do you keep your characters from wandering onto that screen? Arent they attracted to those little road squares? (You DO have characters, right?)
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Post by minky on Feb 25, 2014 22:57:28 GMT -5
Annette, the buildings are there, out of frame. Some of the characters might wander down to the port or be doing tasks in buildings out of the "grid." In general, the characters will seek out roads, so yes they are attracted to the tiny squares.
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Post by mokkabee on Feb 25, 2014 23:05:45 GMT -5
Thats wonderful! An observation, if I may ... I think that The top edges of the buildings along the top of each patch need to be contained within the patch, or else the horizontal "seams" of your quilt will completely disappear, and it will look like strips instead of blocks. Each square's entire "frame" needs to be visible. It is the uniform, visible, stitching in a quilt that unifies the pieces. Was that as confusing as I think it was? EDIT TO ADD !!! unless that image is of the patch that will always remain at the top edge of the quilt ... And you want the edges to not be flat/straight/plain. (You may want to play with the idea of an edging of trees encircling the outer edge of the entire piece when done.) You are right! I am sorry I overlooked this design error. Well nobody is perfect The next time when I can go in, I will adjust these overlapping issues. Thank you for pointing this out. And yes, as time goes on new patches will be created on top of my one. It is just for now that we created 9 patches but the more participants will join the more new patches will be added. Some of the patches near the beach will be also interesting territory. But we are not yet at that point. Next time I will also add some characters. Today I just found grampa simpsons so,I put him on the bench to feed birds.
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Post by mokkabee on Feb 25, 2014 23:11:13 GMT -5
Annette On second thought though..... All my buildings ARE actually within the borders. It is just that because they are taller than a bush, that's why it LOOKS like it is overlapping. Perhaps we have to debate this issue inside of our project group because I see other examples such as taller buildings like the towers or the magnifying glass, if someone chooses to add those ones they will also overlap. So I think we need to create a rule for this wether or not any visual overlapping will be allowed because as I said. Technically all my items I placed are within the rectangle borders of the patch Maybe it is enough if we make sure nothing is overlapping to the sides and bottom line. And that is the case in my patch
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Post by Annette on Feb 26, 2014 1:09:36 GMT -5
Good point about those tall buildings ... Hmmm ... If your rule is to be sure to keep the bottoms and sides of the squares protected, but not the top, then you still have a problem. The person with the square below yours shares your bottom border with their top border ... Their buildings will cover much of your tapestry of patio sets and arches. And the way you "worked" your bottom corners is really perfect for the corners of a patch.
Just to toss an idea out there --
what if you used alternating diagonal squares for buildings, and the other squares for more textural things or parks or gardens or two a dimensional artwork and stuff like that. ... Gawd, I don't know how to explain it ... I'm thinking that would eliminate all the overlap problems and give a real quilt feel to it.
By alternating diagonals, I'm thinking of a checkerboard, for instance, in the nine squares you are showing, the center and the four corners would have buildings, while the other squares would have designs, or vice versa.
I feel like I'm really overstepping here, but I do think it would look amazing if it could be kept really obvious that each square was independent of the ones next to it. Quilts often have an alternating design like that. That might not be your focus, though! I love love love the bottom edge of your patch. I'd hate to see it lost behind something in the square beneath it.
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Post by minky on Feb 26, 2014 1:13:00 GMT -5
Good point about those tall buildings ... Hmmm ... If your rule is to be sure to keep the bottoms and sides of the squares protected, but not the top, then you still have a problem. The person with the square below yours shares your bottom border with their top border ... Their buildings will cover much of your tapestry of patio sets and arches. And the way you "worked" your bottom corners is really perfect for the corners of a patch. Just to toss an idea out there -- what if you used alternating diagonal squares for buildings, and the other squares for more textural things or parks or gardens or two a dimensional artwork and stuff like that. ... Gawd, I don't know how to explain it ... I'm thinking that would eliminate all the overlap problems and give a real quilt feel to it. By alternating diagonals, I'm thinking of a checkerboard, for instance, in the nine squares you are showing, the center and the four corners would have buildings, while the other squares would have designs, or vice versa. I feel like I'm really overstepping here, but I do think it would look amazing if it could be kept really obvious that each square was independent of the ones next to it. Quilts often have an alternating design like that. That might not be your focus, though! I love love love the bottom edge of your patch. I'd hate to see it lost behind something in the square beneath it. I actually had the same thought - It's definitely worth considering - especially since someone else thought of it too so it's not just my weird brain coming up with it.
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Post by mokkabee on Feb 26, 2014 2:27:15 GMT -5
Annette this thing is getting to a point where I don't follow anymore. We should keep it simple. The overlapping issue has to be discussed this is sure. But one of the reasons for the rectangle idea was that it fits all into an iPad screen so you can easily take a screenshot of your patch. Not six, not 29 ... Just 1 screenshot because all will fit in. If we now start diagonal stuff ( which we avoided for this very reason) everything will fall apart besides.... I already worked a couple of hours on my design I know you mean only good and you have good intentions but we should not make it over complicated. The very fact that this whole idea of making a joint patchwork was so simple and easy to understand, has led to my decision to participate. So we will discuss it inside of our group and see what could be a simple and easy solution for all of us. I agree with you about the bottom corners, I wouldn't want to see them being overlapped. But perhaps all we have to do is creating the following rule: Rule #1: if you have a patch (rectangle area) on top of yours that is in use, then do not place any overlapping item. Simple as this. So in the actual situation no one is above me so I am fine. The minute someone else claims that area ( the patch above mine) I have to re-adjust my upper buildings.
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Post by Kittzy on Feb 26, 2014 3:04:34 GMT -5
Annette this thing is getting to a point where I don't follow anymore. We should keep it simple. The overlapping issue has to be discussed this is sure. But one of the reasons for the rectangle idea was that it fits all into an iPad screen so you can easily take a screenshot of your patch. Not six, not 29 ... Just 1 screenshot because all will fit in. If we now start diagonal stuff ( which we avoided for this very reason) everything will fall apart besides.... I already worked a couple of hours on my design I know you mean only good and you have good intentions but we should not make it over complicated. The very fact that this whole idea of making a joint patchwork was so simple and easy to understand, has led to my decision to participate. So we will discuss it inside of our group and see what could be a simple and easy solution for all of us. I agree with you about the bottom corners, I wouldn't want to see them being overlapped. But perhaps all we have to do is creating the following rule: Rule #1: if you have a patch (rectangle area) on top of yours that is in use, then do not place any overlapping item. Simple as this. So in the actual situation no one is above me so I am fine. The minute someone else claims that area ( the patch above mine) I have to re-adjust my upper buildings. I gotta agree, you want to keep it simple & enjoyable. Only thing you might want to change, would be not to have ANYTHING sticking out of your area. So that way no one needs to go back & re-designe their area if someone claims an area above theirs. I really love your design. It's simple & cute looking.
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Post by mokkabee on Feb 26, 2014 3:28:07 GMT -5
Only thing you might want to change, would be not to have ANYTHING sticking out of your area.... Ok I have changed my earlier design and now it 100% within the hedge borders on all 4 sides. It was not a big deal, and if I had thought about it right away right from the beginning I didn't even have to do any redesign. Problem solved Annette ?
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uber
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Post by uber on Feb 26, 2014 5:57:48 GMT -5
you guys got room for another?
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Post by mokkabee on Feb 26, 2014 6:01:47 GMT -5
you guys got room for another? Sure. Vigilante will take you in. Welcome aboard
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moparman
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Post by moparman on Feb 26, 2014 8:56:31 GMT -5
Check it out! Coming along great here. Just finished my patch off. Going to look amazing when more is finished!
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