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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 1:18:43 GMT -5
you all know i don't take part of challanges with screenshots, i'm too dumb. but i like watching them.
why there wasn't a challange for kl yet, like the best entrance to a ride or something like that?
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Post by Andy on Aug 28, 2013 2:26:33 GMT -5
you all know i don't take part of challanges with screenshots, i'm too dumb. but i like watching them. why there wasn't a challange for kl yet, like the best entrance to a ride or something like that? I think we've just been giving people plenty of chance to work on their Krustyland before we use it in any contests. It'll definitely be used eventually, maybe next week, maybe next month, maybe in 6 months. I honestly have no idea, I just let everybody else do the work.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2013 2:31:13 GMT -5
you all know i don't take part of challanges with screenshots, i'm too dumb. but i like watching them. why there wasn't a challange for kl yet, like the best entrance to a ride or something like that? I think we've just been giving people plenty of chance to work on their Krustyland before we use it in any contests. It'll definitely be used eventually, maybe next week, maybe next month, maybe in 6 months. I honestly have no idea, I just let everybody else do the work. maybe tomorrow? i need ideas! |
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Post by A Bad Example on Aug 28, 2013 4:20:11 GMT -5
I think that a tiered level of awards for some of the contests needs to be developed. With SPOFA and OTM as soon as someone posts a really great creation, everyone who thinks they can't match it quits. Every challenge since this summer has resulted in this. We already have one in the SPOFA thread. The most recent OTM was a bust, with the first entry being a masterpiece. The tier structure should be based on the contest. For example OTM should have had an architectural component and maybe a useful addition to the town component. Buts this is just $.02 from the sleep depraved. |
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Post by Mitzy on Aug 28, 2013 4:39:06 GMT -5
I think that a tiered level of awards for some of the contests needs to be developed. With SPOFA and OTM as soon as someone posts a really great creation, everyone who thinks they can't match it quits. Every challenge since this summer has resulted in this. We already have one in the SPOFA thread. The most recent OTM was a bust, with the first entry being a masterpiece. The tier structure should be based on the contest. For example OTM should have had an architectural component and maybe a useful addition to the town component. Buts this is just $.02 from the sleep depraved. Mmm not sure how to take this comment. I really enjoyed making my fruit bowl and spent a lot of time on it. I'm not expecting to win as I'm sure the arty types are working on their creations and will post them soon. Everyone will see something worthy in all the entries. As for the OTM contest I also didn't expect to win but entered because I had fun doing it. Maybe I'm being a little over sensitive  |
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Post by A Bad Example on Aug 28, 2013 4:53:07 GMT -5
I think that a tiered level of awards for some of the contests needs to be developed. With SPOFA and OTM as soon as someone posts a really great creation, everyone who thinks they can't match it quits. Every challenge since this summer has resulted in this. We already have one in the SPOFA thread. The most recent OTM was a bust, with the first entry being a masterpiece. The tier structure should be based on the contest. For example OTM should have had an architectural component and maybe a useful addition to the town component. Buts this is just $.02 from the sleep depraved. Mmm not sure how to take this comment. I really enjoyed making my fruit bowl and spent a lot of time on it. I'm not expecting to win as I'm sure the arty types are working on their creations and will post them soon. Everyone will see something worthy in all the entries. As for the OTM contest I also didn't expect to win but entered because I had fun doing it. Maybe I'm being a little over sensitive That wasn't aimed at you, it is just a coincidence.  It is that I think the contests are not getting entries from a lot of people becuase they see something awesome; and decide they can't compete with it. That will result in just a couple of people entering these things, which defeats the purpose. There were no entrants for SPOFA after I made my post. There were very few entrants in the last SPOFA. OTM had less than 10 submissions; and I knew mine would not be considered since they weren't monsters of design, just simple buildings I thought my town needed. |
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Post by Mitzy on Aug 28, 2013 4:55:19 GMT -5
Fair play. Maybe in the future submissions could be made via Pm. That way no one would see them til the voting. Just a thought.
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Post by Lucy on Aug 28, 2013 5:02:35 GMT -5
Mmm not sure how to take this comment. I really enjoyed making my fruit bowl and spent a lot of time on it. I'm not expecting to win as I'm sure the arty types are working on their creations and will post them soon. Everyone will see something worthy in all the entries. As for the OTM contest I also didn't expect to win but entered because I had fun doing it. Maybe I'm being a little over sensitive That wasn't aimed at you, it is just a coincidence. It is that I think the contests are not getting entries from a lot of people becuase they see something awesome; and decide they can't compete with it. That will result in just a couple of people entering these things, which defeats the purpose. There were no entrants for SPOFA after I made my post. There were very few entrants in the last SPOFA. OTM had less than 10 submissions; and I knew mine would not be considered since they weren't monsters of design, just simple buildings I thought my town needed. I don't like competing. I thought it was another "everybody gets a badge who plays along" challenge. I wanted to remove mine the second I realized it was a competition but felt as if I would be a chump if I did that. I would like to see more challenges instead. Also, it would seem that some of these contests benefit those who wait till till the last second to submit something. Maybe the first couple of entires should get something special to entice those who wait till the last second (and therefore gain the benefit of seeing what others have done or in the case of the animal contest seeing what others did NOT do) to enter earlier. I didn't enter the last SPOFA because I already have the initial badge and don't want to compete for the gummy badge. Just my opinion and not aimed at anybody, just saying I don't like competing and want more options that don't involve competing. |
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Post by Mitzy on Aug 28, 2013 5:12:29 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if the Spofa was Re done although I would be kinda sad but would give me a new challenge. This forum has helped me explore being more creative which I love
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Post by A Bad Example on Aug 29, 2013 15:18:53 GMT -5
How about a finger badge, so Duff Dawg can give the finger to everyone who does not tap his Tomacco?  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 20:01:03 GMT -5
How about a finger badge, so Duff Dawg can give the finger to everyone who does not tap his Tomacco? A Walter White middle finger badge would be good as well |
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Post by coop on Sept 6, 2013 18:12:31 GMT -5
I knowi have felt chump-like for entering contest with so much talent on here. Hell half the time i cant get the basic rules straight and just try to deltet my posts. But the ones that win are the coolest things. So i can just stick to the badge just for playing ones and i am cool with that! You guys all make some fantastic ART on here as in stuff should be framed!!
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Post by Fraggle on Sept 7, 2013 17:48:36 GMT -5
I think that a tiered level of awards for some of the contests needs to be developed. With SPOFA and OTM as soon as someone posts a really great creation, everyone who thinks they can't match it quits. Every challenge since this summer has resulted in this. We already have one in the SPOFA thread. The most recent OTM was a bust, with the first entry being a masterpiece. The tier structure should be based on the contest. For example OTM should have had an architectural component and maybe a useful addition to the town component. Buts this is just $.02 from the sleep depraved. I understand your concern, but I don't know if I completely agree with it. Sometimes people don't have time to complete a challenge or sometimes it's just not a challenge that appeals to them. I'm not a competitive person, but I like participating in the challenges when I can because I like starting a conversation with other creative people. Maybe this is an extension of my actual professional life where I'm surrounded by a lot of intelligent people with creative ideas and none of us would be successful if we didn't communicate and share with each other. I've won a couple contests here and not won a lot of others. I don't really like the idea of a tiered system, because at the end of the day how are the tiers determined? And personally I don't think we need more unnecessary badges. Contest topics will change from month to month, and I can assure you when we discuss entries for final judging we do take different criteria into consideration. That's part of the reason we have a discussion - that way the biggest or more expensive designs aren't the only one's considered. If you feel the ambiguity of some of the contest parameters may intimidate some designers, I think that is a fair critique. We always talk about what works and what doesn't work before the next contest. This is a continuously changing process for us as well. Please bring us some ideas. This isn't a closed community and we more than welcome ideas for specific contests that you feel might spark the interest of all forum members. |
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Post by A Bad Example on Sept 7, 2013 18:04:17 GMT -5
I think that a tiered level of awards for some of the contests needs to be developed. With SPOFA and OTM as soon as someone posts a really great creation, everyone who thinks they can't match it quits. Every challenge since this summer has resulted in this. We already have one in the SPOFA thread. The most recent OTM was a bust, with the first entry being a masterpiece. The tier structure should be based on the contest. For example OTM should have had an architectural component and maybe a useful addition to the town component. Buts this is just $.02 from the sleep depraved. I understand your concern, but I don't know if I completely agree with it. Sometimes people don't have time to complete a challenge or sometimes it's just not a challenge that appeals to them. I'm not a competitive person, but I like participating in the challenges when I can because I like starting a conversation with other creative people. Maybe this is an extension of my actual professional life where I'm surrounded by a lot of intelligent people with creative ideas and none of us would be successful if we didn't communicate and share with each other. I've won a couple contests here and not won a lot of others. I don't really like the idea of a tiered system, because at the end of the day how are the tiers determined? And personally I don't think we need more unnecessary badges. Contest topics will change from month to month, and I can assure you when we discuss entries for final judging we do take different criteria into consideration. That's part of the reason we have a discussion - that way the biggest or more expensive designs aren't the only one's considered. If you feel the ambiguity of some of the contest parameters may intimidate some designers, I think that is a fair critique. We always talk about what works and what doesn't work before the next contest. This is a continuously changing process for us as well. Please bring us some ideas. This isn't a closed community and we more than welcome ideas for specific contests that you feel might spark the interest of all forum members. I do think some of these contests need to be geared to the way people play the game. If some don't actually read the rules that is not your fault. SPOFA is not really conductive to this, unless you put dedicate a space to your artwork. But an OTM contest where the only entries that stand a chance of winning are monsters of architectural design, does not encourage participation. All of my OTM entries have been creative and useful additions to the town it I made it in. And they still exist. None had a real chance of winning because they were not towering monsters of 3D architecture. I entered knowing this. A lot of people don't even try, because they know it as well. I see the contests evolving to just a handful of entries. They might be spectacular; but participation will be lousy. Which is not what I think you want. |
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Post by Fraggle on Sept 7, 2013 18:17:09 GMT -5
A Bad Example I'm actually working on something right now that will hopefully clarify some things about challenges, especially since we have so many new members. I'm going to try to make it available shorty. We are also working on a way to make things more accessible since those of us who have been here a long time sometimes take our ability to navigate the forum sub-boards and folders for granted. I can't speak for anyone else on the committee, but I have to say I have always seen each of the challenges appealing to different kinds of designers. I know in the initial Off the Map introduction, Peruhomer outlined some objectives. tstappedout.com/thread/2711/off-map-curation-unconventional-design They aren't necessarily the same objectives as Forumfield or SPOFA. Again I would encourage you to help develop some ideas that you think might address your concerns. Each of the ongoing challenges is open to interpretation and change. I would love to compete in an Off the Map, give me something good to work with.
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Post by D'oh-tastrophe Inc. on Sept 7, 2013 18:27:00 GMT -5
A Bad Example, I am not sure how to deal with the issue. I have thought about proposing an amendment to OTM and SPOFA that previous winners cannot win again, but then again not many people who have already won are really reentering. I understand the discouragement people feel because I have been feeling it myself. I've been wanting to enter these contests, but when I get around to it the effort seems fruitless. I almost didn't enter the last OTM, but I built the skyscraper as part of my town and figured "what the hell" and entered it. Once the more artistically inclined members win then we may see a bigger increase in participation. I think this SPOFA only has three or four entries, though. 
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Post by D'oh-tastrophe Inc. on Sept 7, 2013 18:30:05 GMT -5
Fraggle; I've seen OTM as appealing to more 3D designers, SPOFA as catered to the 2D artistic crowd, and Forumfield is for those who are spectacular with building design. Photo Challenge can kinda go anywhere, which makes them awesome.
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Post by Fraggle on Sept 7, 2013 18:37:28 GMT -5
Fraggle; I've seen OTM as appealing to more 3D designers, SPOFA as catered to the 2D artistic crowd, and Forumfield is for those who are spectacular with building design. Photo Challenge can kinda go anywhere, which makes them awesome. Yep that's kind of the impression I get as well. Personally I kind of like that aspect. You can always play to your own aesthetic, or challenge yourself with something new. |
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Post by A Bad Example on Sept 7, 2013 18:42:57 GMT -5
A Bad Example, I am not sure how to deal with the issue. I have thought about proposing an amendment to OTM and SPOFA that previous winners cannot win again, but then again not many people who have already won are really reentering. I understand the discouragement people feel because I have been feeling it myself. I've been wanting to enter these contests, but when I get around to it the effort seems fruitless. I almost didn't enter the last OTM, but I built the skyscraper as part of my town and figured "what the hell" and entered it. Once the more artistically inclined members win then we may see a bigger increase in participation. I think this SPOFA only has three or four entries, though. OTM originally said once a fortnight. That doesn't happen. Maybe some of the contests should be designed so that people who can't or don't do the large 3D designs won't be discouraged? A SPOFA challenge that encourages people to do small, simple, easy to create things; but excludes the potential for the masterpiece. The one I won appeared to be this, until I researched Mondrain. Not every challenge; but enough to encourage people to do them. The number of entries for this month's SPOFA is dismal when compared to the first two. |
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Post by Nightmare on Sept 8, 2013 10:20:22 GMT -5
Hows about an event, lasting maybe a day in which anyone who has a picture of an Oompa Loompa as their avatar earns an Oompa Loompa badge? I would really like an Oompa Loompa badge (one was done in the Attention All New People thread) doing it this way anyone who wants an Oompa Loompa badge can have one yay  |
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Post by D'oh-tastrophe Inc. on Sept 8, 2013 19:05:53 GMT -5
A Bad Example, I am not sure how to deal with the issue. I have thought about proposing an amendment to OTM and SPOFA that previous winners cannot win again, but then again not many people who have already won are really reentering. I understand the discouragement people feel because I have been feeling it myself. I've been wanting to enter these contests, but when I get around to it the effort seems fruitless. I almost didn't enter the last OTM, but I built the skyscraper as part of my town and figured "what the hell" and entered it. Once the more artistically inclined members win then we may see a bigger increase in participation. I think this SPOFA only has three or four entries, though. OTM originally said once a fortnight. That doesn't happen. Maybe some of the contests should be designed so that people who can't or don't do the large 3D designs won't be discouraged? A SPOFA challenge that encourages people to do small, simple, easy to create things; but excludes the potential for the masterpiece. The one I won appeared to be this, until I researched Mondrain. Not every challenge; but enough to encourage people to do them. The number of entries for this month's SPOFA is dismal when compared to the first two. The contests seem to have adopted a week to week structure. Four contests, four weeks in a month. It works out sometimes... Yea, sometimes. There's no rule that I'm aware of the says OTM has to be a 3D design. I can see a way to make a 2D skyscraper if someone put in the effort. The number of entries for each contest is waning, with the exception of the Photo Challenges, and those can be hit or miss depending on the contest itself. I also just saw the discussion between yourself and Mitzy earlier, and I actually like the idea of private submissions, and I'm going to develop the idea a little more and take it to the back. |
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Post by coop on Sept 13, 2013 5:30:16 GMT -5
I see all the black ribbons here.. 911 bad news.. Next month is save the boobies now on here we either have them or like them what would it take to get something pink around here?? Just a thought
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Post by Spiffshine on Sept 16, 2013 8:20:46 GMT -5
Hows about an event, lasting maybe a day in which anyone who has a picture of an Oompa Loompa as their avatar earns an Oompa Loompa badge? I would really like an Oompa Loompa badge (one was done in the Attention All New People thread) doing it this way anyone who wants an Oompa Loompa badge can have one yay You can have that Oompa Loompa badge that you covet, and help out the forum at the same time with a Premium Badge! (It also helps when we continuously gain new members and the page views keep rising. Every time you refresh a page, it knocks off another page view - I'm looking at you, Whodunnit Swoopers with your F5 key compulsion. A 50k package used to last a few days, now it is lasting just under 2.) |
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Post by Snarkmork on Sept 16, 2013 8:46:12 GMT -5
You can have that Oompa Loompa badge that you covet, and help out the forum at the same time with a Premium Badge! (It also helps when we continuously gain new members and the page views keep rising. Every time you refresh a page, it knocks off another page view - I'm looking at you, Whodunnit Swoopers with your F5 key compulsion. A 50k package used to last a few days, now it is lasting just under 2.) So wait, page views are bad for you? |
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Post by Spiffshine on Sept 16, 2013 9:00:30 GMT -5
You can have that Oompa Loompa badge that you covet, and help out the forum at the same time with a Premium Badge! (It also helps when we continuously gain new members and the page views keep rising. Every time you refresh a page, it knocks off another page view - I'm looking at you, Whodunnit Swoopers with your F5 key compulsion. A 50k package used to last a few days, now it is lasting just under 2.) So wait, page views are bad for you? Sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound like page views are bad... page views are great for us! It just goes to show how popular our little home is and lets us know we are doing a good thing here. I encourage everyone to continue to use the forum normally... but unnecessary, continuous refreshing in order to gain some advantage for games like Whodunnit and Springfield Rumble does cost real money. Every time a page loads on the forum or in PMs, that is considered a page view. I wish that ProBoards only charge per post instead of per view, but I understand their reasoning behind it. Regardless, we have some very generous members who help keep us ad-free month after month. On behalf of the forum - YOU ROCK! |
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