Conform-O-Meter INFO: What you need for 5 Stars!

[Duder]

Almost all the buildings effect an element of the Conform-O-Meter. Each building has a point value (almost all of the values are 10 points, as outerhaven pointed out with the Restaurants for Gluttony), and those point values are applied to one of your Conform-O-Meter's ratings. Each building's point values are below, along with what Conform-O-Meter they influence. (I will be tidying this up in the near future!)

Here's a breakdown of how many buildings you need for each Rating, with the breakdown of what buildings boost what ratings at the bottom of the thread.

Indolence:
Level 10-11: 13 Total Houses
Level 12: 14 Houses
Level 13: 15 Houses
Level 14-15: 16 Houses
Level 16-17: 17 Houses
Level 18: 18 Houses
Level 19: 19 Houses
Level 20: 20 Houses
Level 21: 21 Houses
Level 22-23: 23 Houses
Level 24: 24 Houses
Level 25: 26 Houses
Level 26: 27 Houses
Level 27: 28 Houses
Level 28: 29 Houses

Gluttony:
Level 10-13: 3 Total Restaurants
Level 14: 5 Restaurants
Level 15: 6 Restaurants
Level 16-17: 8 Restaurants
Level 18-23: 10 Restaurants
Level 24: 11 Restaurants
Level 25-26: 12 Restaurants
Level 27: 16 Restaurants
Level 28: 16 Restaurants

Consumerism:
Level 10-11: 4 Total Shops
Level 12: 5 Shops
Level 13-16: 6 Shops
Level 17-28: 8 Shops

Obedience:
I will list the # of points needed for each level here, since not all buildings give 10 points towards Obedience:
Level 10: 10 total points needed
Level 11: 40 points
Level 12-13: 50 points
Level 14: 60 points
Level 15: 70 points
Level 16-19: 80 points
Level 20: 90 points
Level 21: 100 points
Level 22: 110 points
Level 23: 140 points
Level 24: 160 points
Level 25: 142 points (this is odd)
Level 26: 152 points
Level 27: 162 points
Level 28: 162 points

Tree Hugging & Vanity
These are pretty easy to get, so I won't list the requirements. Be aware that the more expensive decorations provide less points/$ than the cheapest items. (Meaning, if you spend $1000 on smaller shrubs, you'll get more points towards tree hugging than spending $1000 on 2 more expensive trees! The same applies to vanity.)

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Here's the breakdown of the buildings/decorations and the rating(s) the boost.

Indolence: (referred to as "Housing" in the Raw Files)
Regular (170 points): Simpsons House, Brown House, Flanders' House, Cletus' Farm, Purple House, Blue House, Van Houten House, Pink House, White House, Willie's Shack, Orange House, Retirement Castle, Muntz House, Krabapple Apartments, Burns Manor, Wiggum House, Fat Tony's Compound
Premium (20 points): Frink's Lab, Otto's School Bus
Limited Time (20 points): Bad Dream House, Cool Brown House

--So, without duplicates, it's possible to have 210 total points towards Indolence. It doesn't matter what type of houses you use since they are all worth 10 points.

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Gluttony: (referred to as "Restaurant" in the Raw Files)
Regular (100 points): Krusty Burger, Gulp N Blow, Java Server, Moe's, Gilded Truffle, Skip's Diner, Luigi's Pimento Grove, El Chemistri, Businessman's Social Club
Premium (20 points): Lard Lad Donuts, Asia de Cuba
Limited Time (30 points): Phineas Q. Butterfat's, O'Flanagan's Pub, Swanky Fish
To be Determined (30 points): Springfield Coliseum, Duff Stadium, Sleep Eazy -- The game files code these as restaurants, but the codes don't appear to be active.

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Consumerism: (referred to as "Shopping" in the Raw Files)
Regular (30 points): Kwik-E Mart, Android Dungeon, King Toots
Premium (10 points): Try N Save,
Limited Time (40 points): House of Evil, Mapple Store, Howard's Flowers, Sir Putts a Lot

--If you have all of these items, no duplicate Kwik-E Mart's are needed at Level 27. Otherwise, you will need extra Kwik-E Marts to exceed 72 total points.

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Obedience: (referred to as "Service" in the Raw Files)
Regular (152 points): Springfield Elementary, Nuclear Plant (10 points each building, 30 total points), Library, Church, Jake's, Springfield Downs, Police Station (1 point), Penitentiary (1 point), Town Hall, Post Office, Channel 6, Hibbert Family Practice, Hospital, Buddhist Temple, Adult Annexation Annex
Premium (50 points): Observatory, Krustylu Studios, Aztec Theatre, Duff Brewery, Lugash's Gym
Limited Time (10 points): Fort Sensible
Decorations: Stop Sign (1 point), Hail Ants Sign (1 point), Ambulance (30 points), Police Car (40 points)

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Tree-Hugging: (referred to as "Environment" in the Raw Files)
Regular: Trees, Shrubs, Flowers, etc. (too many to list, but will post less-obvious items later.)
Premium: Apple/Orange Tree (400), Tree Swing (400), Burning Bush (400), Flower Planter (200),
Limited Time: n/a (for now)

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Vanity: (referred to as "Decorations" in the Raw Files)
**I'm not listing all of the decorations that boost Vanity. There are a lot (but I will add some noteworthy items in the near future.)
Regular: Bart's Treehouse (100 points), Escalator to Nowhere (1000 points), Popsicle Stick Skyscraper (2000 points), 50 ft. Magnifying Glass (3000 points)
Premium: Butterfly Tent (200), Springfield Sign (1800), Tire Fire (800), Bench w/ Towel (6), Green Dumpster (200), White Fence (40), Hammock (200), Crap Car (310), News Van (200), Broadcast Dish (200), Cannon (200), Burns Limo (200), Tetherball (200), Mt. Carlmore (1200)
Limited Time: Cemetery (100 points), Pet Cemetery (100 points)

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Righteousness: (referred to as "Crime" in the Raw Files)
**I'm not sure exactly how this rating works with Vandalizing, but there are 2 buildings which boost your crime rating. Outerhaven found in the Raw files that you lose 5 points every time a building is vandalized, and gain 1 point back for cleaning it up. We are still investigating to see how you can have 5 stars in Righteousness when you appear to lose 4 points every time a you get vandalized and clean it up. The code adds up, but the logic doesn't. Perhaps there's a time element, but not quite sure yet (just a theory).
Regular: Police Station (10 points), Penitentiary (10 points)
Premium: none
Limited Time: none

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The following buildings apparently don't impact the Conform-O-Meter: Barney's Bowlarama, Volcano Lair, Super Collider, Mausoleum, Santa's Village

The black hole is the one decoration I saw that had no apparent Conform-O-Meter boost.

[OuterHaven]

Don't want to butt into this, but Righteousness: Crime there is that -5 figure for Vandalism and from what I can gather you when you clean up your buildings you gain 1 back.

[D'oh-tastrophe Inc.]

Thanks for this!

[Duder]

Mar 21, 2013 18:27:15 GMT -5 OuterHaven said:

Don't want to butt into this, but Righteousness: Crime there is that -5 figure for Vandalism and from what I can gather you when you clean up your buildings you gain 1 back.

I appreciate any butting in! I had no clue where to find that info!

[OuterHaven]

Look in settings.xml it's at the top of the Level information for all the Conform-O-Meter lists....

RatingDescription codeName="crimeMod" default="0" save="true" modifies="crime"

SocialInteract community="1"
VandalEffect crime="-5"
CrimeMod crime="1"

[Spiffshine]

Thank you!

I see that righteousness remains a little bit of a mystery, unless I am missing something... Could it be you gentlemen are about to crack the case?

[Duder]

Mar 21, 2013 18:43:55 GMT -5 OuterHaven said:

Look in settings.xml it's at the top of the Level information for all the Conform-O-Meter lists....

RatingDescription codeName="crimeMod" default="0" save="true" modifies="crime"

SocialInteract community="1"
VandalEffect crime="-5"
CrimeMod crime="1"

Hmmm...I see it and completely agree with your interpretation, but I don't understand how you can actually have a positive crime rating; if you lose 4 points every time you get vandalized and clean it up, how is 5 star achieved? Perhaps there's an element of time added where points are continually added (just a theory, not smart enough with the code to see how that would be coded in.)

[skullhand1]

I feel stupid I always thought that gluttony and indolence were based on how many characters one had available

[LSLeong]

Mar 21, 2013 19:29:31 GMT -5 Duder said:

Mar 21, 2013 18:43:55 GMT -5 OuterHaven said:

Look in settings.xml it's at the top of the Level information for all the Conform-O-Meter lists....

RatingDescription codeName="crimeMod" default="0" save="true" modifies="crime"

SocialInteract community="1"
VandalEffect crime="-5"
CrimeMod crime="1"

Hmmm...I see it and completely agree with your interpretation, but I don't understand how you can actually have a positive crime rating; if you lose 4 points every time you get vandalized and clean it up, how is 5 star achieved? Perhaps there's an element of time added where points are continually added (just a theory, not smart enough with the code to see how that would be coded in.)

Wouldn't this also mean that we are ruining our neighbors' ratings by spray painting in their towns?

[AlbionGal]

This info is great, thanks so much for sharing it, I was just trying to rack my brain on why and how to get 5 stars across the board.

[joelmoly]

Mar 21, 2013 21:03:56 GMT -5 LSLeong said:

Wouldn't this also mean that we are ruining our neighbors' ratings by spray painting in their towns?

That's what I'm trying to figure out too. I'm not doing anything to figure it out, just hoping someone else does and says "Do it this way." I thought I was helping by spray painting.

[Duder]

Mar 21, 2013 21:03:56 GMT -5 LSLeong said:

Mar 21, 2013 19:29:31 GMT -5 Duder said:

Hmmm...I see it and completely agree with your interpretation, but I don't understand how you can actually have a positive crime rating; if you lose 4 points every time you get vandalized and clean it up, how is 5 star achieved? Perhaps there's an element of time added where points are continually added (just a theory, not smart enough with the code to see how that would be coded in.)

Wouldn't this also mean that we are ruining our neighbors' ratings by spray painting in their towns?

Yes. And that's why I think there's another aspect that has yet been discovered. We'll figure this out eventually!

[dcline414]

Mar 21, 2013 21:54:16 GMT -5 Duder said:

Mar 21, 2013 21:03:56 GMT -5 LSLeong said:

Wouldn't this also mean that we are ruining our neighbors' ratings by spray painting in their towns?

Yes. And that's why I think there's another aspect that has yet been discovered. We'll figure this out eventually!

So you need 85 points for 5* on level 27 right? And if I read the OP correctly, you can only earn 20 of those points with buildings. So the other 65 points must be earned 1 at a time, but can be lost 5 at a time?

Even that doesn't explain the widely reported drops from 5* to 1* in a matter of hours, followed by staying at 5* for days or weeks on end before the next sudden drop.

Thanks for all of this decoded code though... we are getting closer and closer to understanding this unknowable mystery!

[OuterHaven]

There must be something else but if not, it might be only a 'one time thing' but if I can find the Sideshow Bob crime number that might tell us if indeed he gave us a boost.

But all I can see is that -5 is when you're spray painted, you get 1 point each time you visit a friend and you get 1 point each time you clear up graffiti in your town.

So there must be something else that sets the crime, or gives you that must needed boost.

[OuterHaven]

Duder I think the Crime Rating 'might' be broken or there is something just not sitting right with it.

Take a lookinhg characterscripts.xml for what Sideshow Bob was meant to do to the crime ratings, again it has the same -5 for Sideshow Bob appearing as it does for vandalism and an adjustment of 1 for catching him.

[Duder]

Mar 22, 2013 5:17:51 GMT -5 OuterHaven said:

Duder I think the Crime Rating 'might' be broken or there is something just not sitting right with it.

Take a lookinhg characterscripts.xml for what Sideshow Bob was meant to do to the crime ratings, again it has the same -5 for Sideshow Bob appearing as it does for vandalism and an adjustment of 1 for catching him.

I'm in total agreement. I just looked at the characterscripts.xml. Last night, I looked through all the character quests files to see if any of them modified crime (especially Snake's tasks), and didn't see anything that code that modified the Crime rating. I'm not sure if you've looked at those and can confirm that I'm not blind!

[OuterHaven]

Nope, it seems only Sideshow Bob effected the Crime Rating... I just think Snake is just allowed to get away with it haha.

[Peruhomer]

Damn Rigteousness! I have been swinging back and forth between four and a half and five stars for as long as I can remember. I have tried all of the suggestions by other members, stop signs hidden behind a number of buildings and Fat Tony and Snake doing continuous 24 hour shifts inside the prision. Now, it appears that all of this is just an urban myth. I even have the Rev. doing 24 hour shifts in the church and all of the kids regularly attending Sunday school. Actually, I don´t know why I am doing this as I have never read that it has any kind of positive effect on righteousness. I guess I am just hoping that if EA won´t help then perhaps god just might...

[OuterHaven]

I'm just wondering when you clean up a friends graffi or vandal a friends town you get some Rigteousness points, other at the moment it seems like it's a -5 / +1 system.

[dcline414]

So how can all 4 buildings get vandalized several times per day without a dip in R'ness/crime from 5* and then suddenly drop to 1* out of the blue?

Does vandalizing and/or cleaning buildings in neighbors' towns count for +1 per tap? (So 3-5 per town per day, up to 400+ points per day?)

How does others cleaning the buildings in your town affect your R'ness/crime rating? Up? Down?

[txkat]

I've never found that it's worth the effort to get/ keep high star ratings. The bonus seems small compared to what it takes to maintain a 5, and also compared to other ways to boost earnings.

[fspj]

Mar 21, 2013 18:43:55 GMT -5 OuterHaven said:

Look in settings.xml it's at the top of the Level information for all the Conform-O-Meter lists....

RatingDescription codeName="crimeMod" default="0" save="true" modifies="crime"

SocialInteract community="1"
VandalEffect crime="-5"
CrimeMod crime="1"

In this discussion, it seems like you guys are focused more on the vandalising issue. But what if its the "SocialInteract community" variable that's having the real impact? It's possible that the Righteousness rating is affected both by going to other SFs, but also by neighbors visiting you. I wonder if your rating is determined in part by not only how many people visit you, but what they do. For example, maybe you get a point when a neighbor visits, and a different point outcome depending on whether they vandalise or clean up (or something else if they just tap a dollar sign).

So Righteousness could be partly out of your control and at the whim of your neighbors. It could explain why we get seemingly random fluctuations. After all, as they keep reminding us, "this is a social game", right?

I have no idea. Just thinking out loud.

[Spud]

For the first time ever in my game:



Thank you.

[Duder]

Mar 22, 2013 23:01:05 GMT -5 txkat said:

I've never found that it's worth the effort to get/ keep high star ratings. The bonus seems small compared to what it takes to maintain a 5, and also compared to other ways to boost earnings.

I agree that having 5 stars doesn't provide much extra $$/XP, but there are many people that are junkies for game achievements, or whose OCD demands 5 stars!

Mar 23, 2013 9:23:27 GMT -5 fspj said:

Mar 21, 2013 18:43:55 GMT -5 OuterHaven said:

Look in settings.xml it's at the top of the Level information for all the Conform-O-Meter lists....

RatingDescription codeName="crimeMod" default="0" save="true" modifies="crime"

SocialInteract community="1"
VandalEffect crime="-5"
CrimeMod crime="1"

In this discussion, it seems like you guys are focused more on the vandalising issue. But what if its the "SocialInteract community" variable that's having the real impact? It's possible that the Righteousness rating is affected both by going to other SFs, but also by neighbors visiting you. I wonder if your rating is determined in part by not only how many people visit you, but what they do. For example, maybe you get a point when a neighbor visits, and a different point outcome depending on whether they vandalise or clean up (or something else if they just tap a dollar sign).

So Righteousness could be partly out of your control and at the whim of your neighbors. It could explain why we get seemingly random fluctuations. After all, as they keep reminding us, "this is a social game", right?

I have no idea. Just thinking out loud.

We are focusing on Righteousness because it's the only mysterious rating; everything else is very straight forward. "Community" refers to socialism, so the "SocialInteract community=1" part gives you one point towards socialism when you interact with a neighbor.

[joelmoly]

Mar 23, 2013 13:17:48 GMT -5 Duder said:

Mar 23, 2013 9:23:27 GMT -5 fspj said:

In this discussion, it seems like you guys are focused more on the vandalising issue. But what if its the "SocialInteract community" variable that's having the real impact? It's possible that the Righteousness rating is affected both by going to other SFs, but also by neighbors visiting you. I wonder if your rating is determined in part by not only how many people visit you, but what they do. For example, maybe you get a point when a neighbor visits, and a different point outcome depending on whether they vandalise or clean up (or something else if they just tap a dollar sign).

So Righteousness could be partly out of your control and at the whim of your neighbors. It could explain why we get seemingly random fluctuations. After all, as they keep reminding us, "this is a social game", right?

I have no idea. Just thinking out loud.

We are focusing on Righteousness because it's the only mysterious rating; everything else is very straight forward. "Community" refers to socialism, so the "SocialInteract community=1" part gives you one point towards socialism when you interact with a neighbor.

I dig what fspj says. My random, alcohol-addled, non-scientific research tells me that I don't randomly drop from 5* to 1*, it coincides with visits with friends. I may go all day without a visit, log in, and there's some mops and I'm bottomed out on Righteousness. And starting at 5*, if I start visiting friends and stop suddenly before I'm very far in (5 or 10), I will come back to 1 1/2* or so. I know the social interaction has Socialism to reflect its stars, but there has to be some weird correlation with Righteousness.

Well, there doesn't have to be, but I felt like adding my two cents.