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Post by Vigilante on Jun 2, 2018 1:01:59 GMT -5
Yeah, I’ve signed NDAs when testing televisions and television software and cable boxes and software and all that kind of stuff, so a lot stricter NDAs too, but I couldn’t even disclose what I was testing or anything to even my family and friends due to competition and if features are pulled, the company would get moaned at for lying, just for someone telling something that somehow “gets out”. That’s why I will never sign another NDA or get information or test anything that the only people I can talk about it to, are other testers, and that is boring. I obviously broke many NDAs but I had friends I could trust, but then when some features I spoke about never happened, I just felt like a fool and that I was making it all up. But hey, if I do come out of retirement, I won’t be signing an NDA and if I release all the information, even if some of it is known before hand due to those in the know with the NDAs. I mean, come one, I’m actually part of the reason EA stopped releasing the files months before an update actually happened. When the game first came out and people were speculating about what was going to come next, he first ever THOH, and some Level stuff when they used to do Levels instead of money making events. So again, it’s be foolish for me to sign an NDA due to myself being the cause of all this secrecy (and others that followed me) in the first place, haha. Like I said my custom DLC is still active for my personal use that always checks EAs servers for the latest DLC every 10 minutes, and emails me when there are new files, and extracts and converts them automatically, so I could have released the information for this update, before the app updates arrived etc. But I no longer have my other sites for Tapped Out online as I simply did not renew the domains, and I couldn’t put it up on my DLC server, for obvious reasons. I don’t know EA’s Terms of Service or the leagality of leaking Intellectual Property but is there anything they can do if you continue to file phish? Other than seek you to sign an NDA? can they take you to court over it, or give you a cease and desist? |
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Post by OuterHaven on Jun 2, 2018 2:10:40 GMT -5
Well, to be fair, I used to do it six years ago when the updates were released months before they appeared in the game, and I uploaded the images to EA's Tapped Out official forum and nothing was mentioned to me, and then of course when this forum was created, I moved here and this forum was the place to get informatuion before I gave others steps to find out what was coming next. Then EA just started to release the new content on the day the update is released, so I no longer could post spoiler content of the updates. I had my site which has all the information, every image in high quality, all the animations etc. up until last year or so. I also had a scrolling section that was exactly like the one in TSTO and nothing was ever sent to me, however there was a disclaimer on the site, telling visitors that the Tapped Out News site was no in anyway affiliated with EA. I think at the time, the game was new, and EA obviously knew, it would make people play the updates as soon as they were available. The only way I would have though they'd take me to court, was if I offered Donuts and like, but I didn't do that, my Tapped Out News / Info site was just basically the game files in all their glory, plus how much everything cost, and I was also starting work on a web-based version of the Springfield map so you could save backups of the town in image forum or share it with friends etc. Those who signed an NDA to get content fed to them before the update arrives, obviously have rules to follow by EA. But I will not be signing an NDA, since others have already, so the information would be already out there, so it would be pointless me just coming out of retirement and put my Tapped Out News / Info site back online, just to sign an NDA and be like everyon else. I was the first every person to post spoilers of Tapped Out and most of those on this forum from day one and those who migrated to here from the EA Forum will confirm that as well. I was very active, posting everything, you can see stuff in the sub-forum with the DLC Update Archive. Once EA only released the files on the day of release, the wow factor was less appealing, but I still have the files converted and uploaded once an update was released. I mean basically I was giving EA free publicacy, advertising etc. That is probably why I was never contacted abou an NDA, and I've not told anyone this but EA contacted me to offer me a position to work on the game files or beta test the code for updates or features and would be paid for it, but sadly my health took a turn for the worse so I was unable to commit, but of course I would have had to sign an NDA, and even not release anything before the updates appeared in the game. EA could probably send me a ceast and desist, take me to court, force me to sign an NDA, but I would have though EA would be bothered, as I'm not making an imcome posting the files, I don't claim to own anything, and I'm not selling Donut, Old Item services. I man, someone I know had a tool just like that, adding donuts etc, but he has a cut down free one and a full version of all items etc. only if you paid to be a VIP to download, but EA only notified him to take off the free version of the tools, the paid version was never mentioned. And here I go again, writing essay's but that's what I do when I try to explain thinhs and I have probably repeated myself, so I guess I only needed to say, EA would most likely not be affected by me bring my site back online, it'd just be free advertising again, plus visitors would be able to see how much items cost, build time, animations. I lost most of my files due to a HDD failure, so to bring my site back online, I've had to write everything again mostly, so watch this space and if my health stays as it is, then I'm back to bring this forum back to life.  |
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Post by Solar Dragon on Jun 2, 2018 6:24:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I’ve signed NDAs when testing televisions and television software and cable boxes and software and all that kind of stuff, so a lot stricter NDAs too, but I couldn’t even disclose what I was testing or anything to even my family and friends due to competition and if features are pulled, the company would get moaned at for lying, just for someone telling something that somehow “gets out”. That’s why I will never sign another NDA or get information or test anything that the only people I can talk about it to, are other testers, and that is boring. I obviously broke many NDAs but I had friends I could trust, but then when some features I spoke about never happened, I just felt like a fool and that I was making it all up. But hey, if I do come out of retirement, I won’t be signing an NDA and if I release all the information, even if some of it is known before hand due to those in the know with the NDAs. I mean, come one, I’m actually part of the reason EA stopped releasing the files months before an update actually happened. When the game first came out and people were speculating about what was going to come next, he first ever THOH, and some Level stuff when they used to do Levels instead of money making events. So again, it’s be foolish for me to sign an NDA due to myself being the cause of all this secrecy (and others that followed me) in the first place, haha. Like I said my custom DLC is still active for my personal use that always checks EAs servers for the latest DLC every 10 minutes, and emails me when there are new files, and extracts and converts them automatically, so I could have released the information for this update, before the app updates arrived etc. But I no longer have my other sites for Tapped Out online as I simply did not renew the domains, and I couldn’t put it up on my DLC server, for obvious reasons. I don’t know EA’s Terms of Service or the leagality of leaking Intellectual Property but is there anything they can do if you continue to file phish? Other than seek you to sign an NDA? can they take you to court over it, or give you a cease and desist? Well, I think EA are kind of fine with it. The contact I have from EA checked with other people to see if a) keeping the bot that scans the files public and b) posting the content from it to the wiki was okay before giving us the go ahead. |
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Post by Vigilante on Jun 2, 2018 14:25:16 GMT -5
I don’t know EA’s Terms of Service or the leagality of leaking Intellectual Property but is there anything they can do if you continue to file phish? Other than seek you to sign an NDA? can they take you to court over it, or give you a cease and desist? Well, I think EA are kind of fine with it. The contact I have from EA checked with other people to see if a) keeping the bot that scans the files public and b) posting the content from it to the wiki was okay before giving us the go ahead. Okay that answers my question, there’s no repercussion to making game code viewable, so you and everyone else screwed the pooch on that one, but selling donuts can be dealt with legally by EA got it. |
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